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                                <title>What truly moves an ASX share price? Knowing the unknown</title>
                <link>https://www.fool.com.au/2021/06/29/what-truly-moves-an-asx-share-price-knowing-the-unknown/</link>
                                <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2021 22:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Yoo]]></dc:creator>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Thinking that you know better than other investors is a major trap. Here are some suggestions for your investment approach in the new financial year.</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.fool.com.au/2021/06/29/what-truly-moves-an-asx-share-price-knowing-the-unknown/">What truly moves an ASX share price? Knowing the unknown</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.fool.com.au">The Motley Fool Australia</a>.</p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Do you think you're a good investor?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">You keep up with ASX company news, read up on economic and social trends, and don't speculate on penny stocks.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Unfortunately, regardless of how much effort you put in, the chances are you're no better than anyone else.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The dilemma is that, unless you have illegal insider information, everyone has access to the same company and economic data.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">It's the old </span><a href="https://www.fool.com.au/2021/03/29/are-there-any-bargains-when-everyone-knows-everything/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">efficient market hypothesis</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"Anything that is expected is in the [share] price and the only thing that moves a price is the unexpected," Marcus Today director Marcus Padley said in a memo to clients.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"It is the Catch-22 of investment. You have to know the unknown, because that's the only thing that moves a share price &#8212; the unexpected."</span></p>
<h2>Study the numbers as much as you want, it's useless</h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In the old days, even basic information like company financials had to be purchased and mailed out to investors.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Now with the internet, it is freely available in a multitude of places. Instantly.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Padley said that this means </span><a href="https://marcustoday.com.au/2021/06/post-it-notes/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">the advantage that value investors supposedly had has evaporated</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"The 'edge' that the 'intelligent investor' identified…, as their smarty-pants point of difference, has been arbitraged away.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"When the market goes to hell, 'value' becomes a useful reference point again &#8212; but in a bull market it is </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">so 1950s</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">."</span></p>
<h2>So what do we do then?</h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Because of this market efficiency, Padley reckons investors never make money from smart asset allocation or portfolio optimisation.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"It's almost always a few simple events, fads and trends that moved prices."</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">So instead of combing through company financials, Padley suggested the best way to spend the end-of-financial-year is by developing "an opinion" and not "following the crowds".</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The best place to start is the trends that already have momentum.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"It's probably best you respect the current themes and not bet against them until proved otherwise," said Padley.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"Continuation of the trend is the most likely outcome in the stock market."</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Padley suggested the following 4 themes as the "obvious" starters for the new financial year:</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><span style="font-weight: 400;">A continuing <a class="waffle-rich-text-link" href="https://www.fool.com.au/definitions/bull-market/">bull market</a></span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Real estate prices are going up, so ASX housing shares are "low-risk"</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Interest rates won't rise significantly, so real estate investment trusts, infrastructure and utility shares will do well</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Electric vehicles are coming, so copper and lithium mining shares to rise</span></li>
</ul>
<h2>Efficient markets can be beaten</h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The counter-argument to Padley's view is that markets aren't completely efficient and that </span><a href="https://www.fool.com.au/2021/03/29/are-there-any-bargains-when-everyone-knows-everything/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">bargains can be found occasionally</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">This was the experience of Forager Funds senior analyst Gareth Brown.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"Markets can be surprisingly ignorant from time to time. Especially at the smaller end of the market," he said on a company blog in March.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Brown took the example of </span><b>ThinkSmart Limited </b><span style="font-weight: 400;"><a href="https://www.fool.com.au/tickers/lse-tsl/">(LON: TSL)</a>, which was a buy now, pay later business in the UK. After Australian giant </span><b>Afterpay Ltd </b><span style="font-weight: 400;"><a href="https://www.fool.com.au/tickers/asx-apt/">(ASX: APT)</a> bought out the business, ThinkSmart shares were effectively a stake in the parent.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Yet a huge discrepancy between Afterpay and ThinkSmart shares appeared.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"Here's what happened over the first 6 months of 2020. Afterpay shares rose 99%. And ThinkSmart shares fell 11%," said Brown.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"And what about the almost 9 months since 1 July 2020? Afterpay rose a further 73%, ThinkSmart <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f680.png" alt="🚀" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> 271%."</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">So the market doesn't always see everything, according to Brown.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"There's still plenty a diligent investor can do to gain an edge over it. Look hard and think smart."</span></p>


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<p>The post <a href="https://www.fool.com.au/2021/06/29/what-truly-moves-an-asx-share-price-knowing-the-unknown/">What truly moves an ASX share price? Knowing the unknown</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.fool.com.au">The Motley Fool Australia</a>.</p>
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                                <title>Are there any bargains when everyone knows everything?</title>
                <link>https://www.fool.com.au/2021/03/29/are-there-any-bargains-when-everyone-knows-everything/</link>
                                <pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2021 22:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Yoo]]></dc:creator>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>These days company information is freely accessible to all. No one has an edge over anyone else, so can there ever be truly cheap stocks?</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.fool.com.au/2021/03/29/are-there-any-bargains-when-everyone-knows-everything/">Are there any bargains when everyone knows everything?</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.fool.com.au">The Motley Fool Australia</a>.</p>
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                                                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The efficient market hypothesis says that asset prices reflect all available information.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The consequence is that it's impossible for anyone to consistently "beat the market", unless they have private information that no one else has. That is, illegal insider trading.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Forager Funds senior analyst Gareth Brown does not subscribe to this theory 100%, but finds the idea "useful".</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"Markets are mostly efficient, most of the time," he posted on the Forager blog.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"When it's time to make any investment, we better have a good theory as to why we're right and 'the market' is wrong."</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Brown noted that now, more than ever, </span><a href="https://foragerfunds.com/news/thinksmart-torpedoes-efficient-markets/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">the theory applies because data is so freely (or cheaply) accessible to everyone</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"Seamless information flow, more analysts, more computer power. These are but a few reasons why markets are also getting more efficient over time."</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">However, one shouldn't give up on finding true bargains because "markets can be surprisingly ignorant from time to time", according to Brown.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"Especially at the smaller end of the market," he said.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"Their periodical insanities may also be getting more extreme too."</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Brown took the company </span><b>ThinkSmart Limited </b><span style="font-weight: 400;"><a href="https://www.fool.com.au/tickers/lse-tsl/">(LON: TSL)</a> as a recent example.</span></p>
<h2>The British 'cousin' of <strong>Afterpay Ltd</strong> (ASX: APT)</h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">ThinkSmart's fortunes are closely correlated to ASX market darling Afterpay.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"A few years ago when Afterpay was focused on Australia, tiddler ThinkSmart started a copycat business in the UK called Clearpay," said Brown.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"When Afterpay decided to take on the UK, they deemed it wiser to acquire the fledgling Clearpay than start from scratch."</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">After the buyout, ThinkSmart's major asset ended up being its 6.5% ownership in Afterpay's UK arm. The terms of the acquisition will eventually force this stake to be sold to the parent in 2023 or 2024. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">But for now, the value of ThinkSmart's stocks should be synchronised with Afterpay. That is, if the market was 100% efficient.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"Yet here's what happened over the first 6 months of 2020. Afterpay shares rose 99%. And ThinkSmart shares </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">fell </span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">11%," Brown said.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Inefficient market! That was the time to buy into ThinkSmart.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"And what about the almost 9 months since 1 July 2020? Afterpay rose a further 73%, ThinkSmart <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f680.png" alt="🚀" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> 271%."</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">So there's an example where everyone knew of a direct relationship between two companies, but the market still greatly underpriced ThinkSmart for a period.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"What about that all-seeing, all-knowing market?" said Brown.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"Well, there's still plenty a diligent investor can do to gain an edge over it. Look hard and think smart."</span></p>
<h2>Other bargain examples</h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">There are many other examples of market inefficiency in The Motley Fool's weekly </span><a href="https://www.fool.com.au/category/ask-a-fund-manager/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Ask A Fund Manager series</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Each professional investor is asked what her or his most proud stock purchase was. And inevitably the answer points to a share that was undervalued at the time the fundie picked it up.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"Probably in recent times, the stock that perhaps I'm most proud of would be something more like </span><b>Carsales.com Ltd </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">(<a class="tickerized-link" href="https://www.fool.com.au/tickers/asx-car/">ASX: CAR</a>)," </span><a href="https://www.fool.com.au/2021/01/18/think-you-saw-growth-in-2020-just-wait-for-2021-fundie/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">SG Hiscock High Conviction Fund portfolio manager Hamish Tadgell said in January</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"We bought it when it was out of favour, I think it was about October 2018. On the back of declining new car sales volumes and concerns around that. In that time, we've probably doubled our money since."</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Tribeca Investment Partners portfolio manager Jun Bei Liu said in December that <a href="https://www.fool.com.au/2020/12/14/why-im-sticking-with-my-afterpay-shares-fundie/">her fund bought up Afterpay for cheap</a> during the depths of the </span><a href="https://www.fool.com.au/category/coronavirus-news/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">COVID-19</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> crash.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"When the world was falling apart in March, we had seen an incredible amount of opportunity&#8230; We essentially bought more of the stock around that base when it hit around $10."</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Afterpay shares are now around the $105 mark, while they hit as high as $160 in February.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">"We've done very well&#8230; One thing about those high-growth innovative businesses or an innovator of a sector is that many of them fail and rarely do you get one that actually makes it. And if they do, they're your 10 baggers," Liu said. </span></p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.fool.com.au/2021/03/29/are-there-any-bargains-when-everyone-knows-everything/">Are there any bargains when everyone knows everything?</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.fool.com.au">The Motley Fool Australia</a>.</p>
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