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                                <title>The worst way to think about share price performance</title>
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                                <pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2023 02:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
                <dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Phillips (TMFGilla)]]></dc:creator>
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                                    <description><![CDATA[<p>Don't get caught up in looking at the wrong things.</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.fool.com.au/2023/11/28/the-worst-way-to-think-about-share-price-performance/">The worst way to think about share price performance</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.fool.com.au">The Motley Fool Australia</a>.</p>
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                                                                                            <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For reasons that I can't now recall, I looked up <strong>Harley-Davidson</strong>'s share price the other day.</p>
<p>(I don't think it's a midlife crisis. Then again, a Harley would be cool&#8230; But, I digress.)</p>
<p>The company, listed on the New York Stock Exchange, is currently trading on a <a href="https://www.fool.com.au/definitions/p-e-ratio/">price-to-earnings ratio</a> of 6.2. That's… low.</p>
<p>Either it has a tough future ahead of it, or the market is being unduly pessimistic.</p>
<p>Which… is interesting, but not why I'm writing this.</p>
<p>Indeed, the company itself is only tangential to the point I want to make.</p>
<p>What interested me more was the company's past share price performance.</p>
<p>And not for the reason you might think.</p>
<p>See, Harley's shares have doubled.</p>
<p>But also, they're down 35%.</p>
<p>They're also up 16%.</p>
<p>And down by 28%.</p>
<p>Huh?</p>
<p>Which one is it, Phillips?</p>
<p>Well, it's all of them.</p>
<p>At the time of writing, Harley's shares are changing hands for US$30.50 (the rest of the numbers will be in US dollars, too).</p>
<p>5 years ago, they were $42.29. So they've fallen 28%.</p>
<p>In April 2020, they were $15.04 – a handy double in 3.5 years.</p>
<p>A year ago? $47.06, so they're off by 35% since then.</p>
<p>And merely 30 days ago, shares changed hands for $26.17, so investors have made 16% in a month.</p>
<p>Which would just be normal share market <a href="https://www.fool.com.au/definitions/volatility/">volatility</a> (albeit with some significant macro causes), and needn't worry the <a href="https://www.fool.com.au/investing-education/trading-long-term-investing/">long-term investor</a>.</p>
<p>Except?</p>
<p>Except when you see an article about Harley-Davidson, it's likely to pick one of those time periods to tell you 'how the stock is doing'.</p>
<p>Or, more unhelpfully, they might even say it tells you how the 'company' is going.</p>
<p>So, how is the company going? The share price can't tell you that. It can only tell you what other people think.</p>
<p>And how is the share price going?</p>
<p>It depends.</p>
<p>It's going badly. And well. And badly. And well. It all depends on which time period you choose.</p>
<p>Which… makes the whole exercise pretty bloody silly, doesn't it?</p>
<p>But also, even if those four time periods were all going in the same direction, it wouldn't be any more helpful.</p>
<p>Enron's shares went up, and up, and up… and then the company went broke, and was exposed as a fraud.</p>
<p><strong>AMP Ltd</strong> (<a class="tickerized-link" href="https://www.fool.com.au/tickers/asx-amp/">ASX: AMP</a>)'s went down, and down, and down… and has kept going down!</p>
<p><strong>Tesla</strong> went nowhere, for five years. Then went to the moon.</p>
<p>You get the idea.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the past is just that: the past.</p>
<p>Sure, a company's past performance might give us a starting point. But it might not.</p>
<p>Some go from strength to strength. Others… go from strength to strength, then go broke (I'm looking at you, <strong>Kodak</strong>.)</p>
<p>The bottom line?</p>
<p>Whether we're looking at a company or its share price, the past is no more than context.</p>
<p>At best!</p>
<p>What matters in investing are two things:</p>
<p>1. Your best guess of a company's future performance as an operating business; and</p>
<p>2. The price you pay, relative to that expectation</p>
<p>Not charts. Not past share price performance.</p>
<p>And certainly not 'how the share price has been going' conversation.</p>
<p>One last example:</p>
<p><strong>Microsoft</strong> is one of the biggest and best companies on the planet.</p>
<p>Its shares were trading at $56 in early 2000, in the wake of the dot.com boom.</p>
<p>Then they fell. Hard.</p>
<p>They took 15 years to get back to those heady levels.</p>
<p>And now?</p>
<p>They're trading for $377 a piece.</p>
<p>Was 'the company' doing badly while the share price languished in the noughties and early teens?</p>
<p>Did that mean old Mr Softy was destined to languish in misery?</p>
<p>Or did it actually reflect not poor performance but just that investors, in the dim, distant past, had become crazily over-optimistic?</p>
<p>Yep. The latter.</p>
<p>A company's future – and its future share price – don't depend on how much investors paid for those shares at some time in the past.</p>
<p>If a share price performance is 'disappointing', that usually means that people paid too much in the past, or are paying too little now.</p>
<p>If it's 'impressive', then the reverse is probably true – that the past price was too low, or today's is too rich.</p>
<p>You can't answer either question by looking at a graph of daily share prices.</p>
<p>Whether a company is worth buying, right now, can only be assessed by, as I said above, an analysis of its prospects and its current price.</p>
<p>Harley-Davidson is a helluva brand. People tattoo that brand on their bodies… not something you can say for <strong>Woolworths Group Ltd</strong> (<a class="tickerized-link" href="https://www.fool.com.au/tickers/asx-wow/">ASX: WOW</a>), <strong>Bega Cheese Ltd</strong> (<a class="tickerized-link" href="https://www.fool.com.au/tickers/asx-bga/">ASX: BGA</a>) or <strong>IBM</strong>.</p>
<p>That's a pretty good start. But whether it's enough to make for a successful investment depends on its ability to continue to get people to pay good money for something they value highly.</p>
<p>Not whether the share price is down &#8212; or up &#8212; over the past 12 months&#8230; or 12 years.</p>
<p>As an investor, your job is to work out what data points are worth listening to, and which are just parlour games.</p>
<p>Don't get caught up in looking at the wrong things.</p>
<p>Now&#8230; about that Harley&#8230;</p>
<p>Fool on!</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.fool.com.au/2023/11/28/the-worst-way-to-think-about-share-price-performance/">The worst way to think about share price performance</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.fool.com.au">The Motley Fool Australia</a>.</p>
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